{"id":237093,"date":"2020-03-22T08:36:03","date_gmt":"2020-03-22T07:36:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/?p=237093"},"modified":"2022-05-25T13:05:40","modified_gmt":"2022-05-25T11:05:40","slug":"interview-brother-ansgar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/en\/interview-brother-ansgar\/","title":{"rendered":"Brother Ansgar: Africa after COVID-19"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_section et_pb_section_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_section_regular et_block_section\" >\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_row et_pb_row_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_row\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column et_pb_column_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et-last-child et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_0  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p><em>Brother Ansgar is a missionary doctor and heads up St. Joseph\u2019s Hospital in Peramiho. He has spent many years in Tanzania and helped set up the foundation\u2019s first project \u2013 the construction of a children\u2019s ward. The 68-year-old is now in charge of a publishing unit called Vier T\u00fcrme (\u2018Four Towers\u2019) at M\u00fcnsterschwarzach Abbey. As a physician, he has been closely involved in issues surrounding the coronavirus and compares the current situation in Germany with what happens in East Africa. <\/em><\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_row et_pb_row_1  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_row\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column et_pb_column_1  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et-last-child et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_1  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><h3>Hello Brother Ansgar. How do you see the current coronavirus crisis, both here and in Africa?<\/h3>\n<p>People are becoming infected here much more quickly than was expected; now an increasing number of younger people are being affected. What makes this situation difficult for us in Germany is that we\u2019ve had very little experience with epidemics, so we can\u2019t build on previous experience as is the case in lots of African countries. I believe we need to get a much better grip on organisational aspects. We\u2019re investing a lot of energy and resources in the wrong things. Medical practice in Germany is based on individual treatment, which is extremely resource-intensive. In Africa, by contrast, more is achieved with fewer resources.<\/p>\n<h3>Are African countries better prepared for the coronavirus?<\/h3>\n<p>They\u2019ve experienced cholera and the ebolavirus, so countries like Uganda and Rwanda have a better understanding of epidemics. For example in Uganda they\u2019ve already had<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_row et_pb_row_2  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_row\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column et_pb_column_2  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et-last-child et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_2  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p>cases of the ebolavirus, but they managed to prevent widespread infection by introducing the right measures, like routinely checking people\u2019s temperatures at the border. Also, there was a cholera epidemic in Rwanda twenty years ago when refugees started moving around, and they survived that situation well. These countries are extremely well organised when it comes to combating epidemics.<\/p>\n<h3>According to the official numbers, there have been far fewer infections in Africa than here. Why are fewer people affected by the coronavirus there?<\/h3>\n<p>Some people are wondering if the virus is less prone to spreading in tropical countries due to the heat, although that\u2019s not been proven yet. But maybe it gives us reason to have more hope! <br \/>One reason it\u2019s spreading out more slowly certainly has to be that people in rural areas are less mobile than they are here. That already limits the possibility of transmission. Then there\u2019s also the fact that more than half of the population in East Africa are under the age of 18 and they\u2019re not the high-risk group. Also, Africans have extremely high immunoglobulin levels in their blood, probably because they had to survive lots of infections during childhood. That\u2019s perhaps one reason why they don\u2019t have bad flu infections in Africa like we do. So as a result, maybe the population there is also protected better from COVID-19 infections.<\/p>\n<p>But I do see one potential high-risk scenario: in Tanzania around five per cent of the population is infected with HIV, so that\u2019s 2.5 million Tanzanians. Because their immune system is already weakened, they could already be particularly vulnerable to the coronavirus. There\u2019s no research into this yet, but it\u2019s quite conceivable that there will be more deaths in this section of the population.<\/p>\n<h3>You are still the official director of the hospital in Peramiho. How often do you make it to Tanzania, and what\u2019s the situation like there in these times of COVID-19?<\/h3>\n<p>I go there twice a year and also stay in close contact with the doctors there at other times. St. Joseph\u2019s Hospital is still running as normal, but preparations are being made. For example, rooms have already been put aside for possible coronavirus cases. Of course the government is also introducing measures to prevent the spread of the virus. So for instance the football cup I endowed, the Ansgar Cup, has been cancelled by the authorities.<\/p>\n<h3>And what impact is the virus having on the PATRIZIA Children\u2019s Centers in Tanzania?<\/h3>\n<p>There\u2019s good news on that front. The children have virtually no symptoms, even if they\u2019ve got the virus. We\u2019ve had no fatalities among the children. Despite this, schools have also been shut down in Tanzania. That said, this is not about protecting children, but their parents and society in general because as carriers of the virus, children can of course also infect others.<\/p>\n<h3>What do you see as the biggest challenges posed by the virus in the long term?<\/h3>\n<p>The economic consequences, without a doubt. And this will affect poor countries much more than us, even if they have fewer infections. Lots of countries will be particularly badly affected by the loss of tourists. Tanzania is already noticing the effects of this in economic terms. Domestic flights have been suspended due to a lack of passengers. There\u2019s concern about medical supplies running out. That\u2019s quite possible after manufacturing had to halted in India and China. Transportation has also been reduced.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_divider et_pb_divider_0 et_pb_space\"><div class=\"et_pb_divider_internal\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_3  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><h2>Brother Ansgar: physician, missionary, publishing director \u2013 and advisory board member<\/h2>\n<p>Brother Ansgar studied medicine and worked as a missionary and doctor in Africa for 16 years from 1987 until 2003. He was responsible for St. Joseph\u2019s Hospital in Peramiho in the south-west of Tanzania. It was here that the PATRIZIA Children Foundation implemented its very first project with the building of a children\u2019s ward in 2002. Brother Ansgar provided input on the concept and expansion of the children\u2019s hospital in Peramiho from the very beginning. On returning to Germany, he was appointed missionary procurator and oversaw international projects for the Missionary Benedictines of St. Ottilien. In 2019, he became director of Vier T\u00fcrme (\u2018Four Towers\u2019), the publishing unit at M\u00fcnsterschwarzach Abbey. Brother Ansgar has been a member and supporter of the PATRIZIA Children Foundation advisory board for four years.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_row et_pb_row_3  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_row\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_1_3 et_pb_column et_pb_column_3  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_image et_pb_image_0\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"et_pb_image_wrap \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aux-Stud_Renovierung-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Aux-Stud_Renovierung\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aux-Stud_Renovierung-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aux-Stud_Renovierung-1280x960.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aux-Stud_Renovierung-980x735.jpg 980w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aux-Stud_Renovierung-480x360.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) and (max-width: 980px) 980px, (min-width: 981px) and (max-width: 1280px) 1280px, (min-width: 1281px) 2560px, 100vw\" class=\"wp-image-237069\" \/><\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_1_3 et_pb_column et_pb_column_4  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_image et_pb_image_1\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"et_pb_image_wrap \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Br.AnsgarLeitungsteam.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Br.Ansgar+Leitungsteam\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Br.AnsgarLeitungsteam.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Br.AnsgarLeitungsteam-1280x960.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Br.AnsgarLeitungsteam-980x735.jpg 980w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Br.AnsgarLeitungsteam-480x360.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) and (max-width: 980px) 980px, (min-width: 981px) and (max-width: 1280px) 1280px, (min-width: 1281px) 2560px, 100vw\" class=\"wp-image-237071\" \/><\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_1_3 et_pb_column et_pb_column_5  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et-last-child et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_image et_pb_image_2\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"et_pb_image_wrap \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Stationszimmer_Kind.krankenhaus-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Stationszimmer_Kind.krankenhaus\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Stationszimmer_Kind.krankenhaus-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Stationszimmer_Kind.krankenhaus-1280x960.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Stationszimmer_Kind.krankenhaus-980x735.jpg 980w, https:\/\/www.patrizia.foundation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Stationszimmer_Kind.krankenhaus-480x360.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) and (max-width: 980px) 980px, (min-width: 981px) and (max-width: 1280px) 1280px, (min-width: 1281px) 2560px, 100vw\" class=\"wp-image-237075\" \/><\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":56,"featured_media":237072,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-237093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-en"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - 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